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Approach speed

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Flight TestingGreat comments from test pilot and RV8 builder Kevin Horton:

1.3 Vs works well on larger aircraft, where 30% of stall speed is a
fairly large number. But on a smaller aircraft, 30% of stall speed
might not leave enough margin to to deal with any turbulence on short
final (i.e. 30% of a 100 kt stall speed is twice as big as 30% of a
50 kt stall speed). Also keep in mind that the 30% of stall speed
used on large aircraft is 30% of CAS, not 30% of IAS. Many aircraft
have a large position error at the stall, so the IAS at the stall
might be quite a bit lower than the CAS. For example, the C182Q that
I fly once in a while has a stall speed at aft CG of 38 KIAS or 50
KCAS. 1.3 * 38 = 49 KIAS. 49 KIAS = 55 KCAS, or only about 1.1 Vs
(all values from the POH). If you tried an approach at 49 KIAS you
would have a horrible surprise once you tried to flare. On this
aircraft, the recommended short field landing speed is 60 KIAS, and
this seems about right to me. 60 KIAS is 1.58 Vs, with both values
in IAS.

As far as approach speed, keep in mind that you have unknown position
and instrument errors. So you can't just take a recommended approach
speed from someone else and use it, or simply multiply your IAS stall
speed by 1.3 and believe that you have the magic number. The best
approach is to load the aircraft to max landing weight and forward CG
(the worst case). Pick a day with calm winds and no turbulence - you
want air as smooth as a baby's bottom. Do a series of approaches and
landings, dropping the approach speed by a knot or two each time.
Note how the aircraft responds in the flare. Eventually you will be
slow enough that you start to have problems arresting the rate of
descent in the flare - the aircraft will be talking to you. Take
that speed and add a bit of margin, perhaps 5 kt. That becomes your
absolute minimum airspeed on final.

Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8
 
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Aircraft Weight and Balance Record Excel Worksheet

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Flight TestingThis is just a simple Microsoft Excel spreadsheet that you can print out to use to maintain your aircraft weight and balance information.



Excel Format: http://www.rv8.ch/files/AircraftWeightAndBalanceRecord.xls

PDF Format: http://www.rv8.ch/files/AircraftWeightAndBalanceRecord.pdf
 
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Don't turn back!

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Flight TestingThis is a great article by Doug Rozendaal.

Don't Turn Back!
By Doug Rozendaal

In response to the RV-List thread on turning back to the airport in the event of an engine failure after Take Off I have assembled this editorial. To save bandwidth I am posting this here. I had an engine failure during a low approach and it resulted in an off airport landing. I will share some details of that debacle where it might make the reading more interesting.

One of the most terrifying prospects in any airplane is an engine failure after take off. By definition we are near the airport and these are often found in populated areas offering few alternatives for landing. In the (good) old days pilots landed their plane nearly anywhere. Today, most pilots today have never landed an airplane on anything other than an airport. This has undoubtedly contributed to the improvement in safety we have seen over the years. Unfortunately, because of this we have deep in our psyche is a desire to land only at airports. If we practiced off airport landings, to a full stop, we might have less apprehension about an off airport landing. (just kidding, sort of)

When the engine quits after take off, or any other emergency occurs we respond. AC 61-21A, the "Flight Training Handbook," a.k.a. the Blue Book you must memorize to be a flight instructor, quotes a NTSB study that identified factors which interfere with the prompt and proper response to an emergency.

1. Reluctance to Accept the Emergency. This can't be happening to me. This is a bad dream. I will wake up and it will be all over. Wrong.

2. Desire to Save the Aircraft. My guess this is a really big interference for builders. Remember preserve your assets in this order, Skin, Tin, Ticket. (I stole that from someone but can't remember who or where)

3. Undue Concern about Getting Hurt. If you fly your airplane to the ground before you hit something your chances of survival are really high. If you stall spin you have ZERO chance for survival.

This all seems quite terminal and depressing, but fear not, the answers lie in AC 61-XX "The Fundamentals of Instruction," a.k.a. the hated and much maligned red book. The solution to this interference is instruction. When an emergency occurs your first response will most likely be one of the above. In my accident it was #2, and I had an overwhelming desire was to turn back to the airport. These are called normal responses to stress. There is another entire chapter on abnormal responses to stress. Some are quite humorous, however if you displayed any of these in your training it is the responsibility of a "professional flight instructor" to help you pursue another line of work. If you have been properly trained, the red book says, you will quickly put aside these thoughts and take proper action.

Before we have a forced landing at the worst possible time lets discuss them in general. Prudent pilots plan for worst. This involves having a "plan B" in mind at all times. That includes forced landing sites. Obviously the higher we are the less time we need to spend considering sites. Conversely on takeoff often our options are quite limited. In this scenario, plan B is to sacrifice the airplane to save our skin.

No matter how high or low you are it still comes down to landing with out power. If given a choice of landing sites, when you get down near the ground you need to use an approach that you have practiced. The trick is to do a short field, soft field, dead-stick, accuracy landing. No big deal right? When was the last time you practiced that?

The choices are:

1. The Overhead 360. This is a military pattern and altitude permitting, the preferred method. I involves flying over the desired point of landing flying a 360 deg turn and landing out of it. The "blue book" says this should be started at 2000 ft above the ground. In a T-6 it takes 3000 ft.

2. The 180 Approach. This involves flying abeam you desired touch down point and flying a descending turn to it. The blue book says a 1000 ft here.

3. The 90 Approach pick a point on the 45 deg line and turn to it. Interpolation would indicate that 500 ft would be the number here.

All of these methods allow you to increase or decrease the radius of turn to burn up excess altitude.

You notice we did not discuss the straight in approach. Let's look at some problems with the straight in approach. All of the approaches are turns you notice. Since you have no throttle, by changing the radius of the turn you increase or decrease distance to the landing point. In the straight-in you can S-turn if you are high but if you are low you are screwed. A straight in truly is the last resort. Then why is it the first thing we are supposed to do? It is about training. If you are at 100 ft when the engine quits you don't have any time to think. You must put aside the normal responses and resort to your training. Your training must be to lower the nose and land straight ahead.

Do not chastise yourself for you initial response to turn back. I did that! I was mad at myself for wanting to turn back. The training finally kicked in and I lowered the nose and went to work solving problems. I had little altitude so I chose the 90 deg approach to get headed into the wind and landed the airplane. Unfortunately it was in a soft soybean field and I went about 60 ft and nosed over. Then the fun began.

Now lets suppose that You are at 1000 feet and the Blue Book says it is OK to do the 180 degree approach right? Wrong, unless you are at Metropolis and there is a parallel runway off your wingtip. If you took off from the 2500 ft of grass at Dump-truck , Iowa after you do that 180 degree turn you still have another 45 to go to point at the end of the runway and then another 45 to get lined up on final. That totals 270 degrees of turn and the Blue Book says that would be around 1500 ft of altitude. Oh, but we are not done yet. Unless you have 2000 ft and can do a 270 degree turn followed by a 90 you are set up for a straight in approach. And if you end up short, most airplanes will, unless there is a 20 knot wind, you will make a downwind crash landing in the road ditch short of the airport. For downwind off-airport landings, I can't think of anywhere short of the Salt Flats where I would choose that option.

Another Tidbit of training that passed through my mind in the moments following the incident and preceding the accident was from my B-25 checkpilot, Randy Sohn's wisdom which he credits to Bevo Howard (I think) is, "Fly It to the Ground, don't Fall it to the Ground." If you hit the ground with the wings level and at the slowest possible forward speed your will probably be able to talk with the FAA about your landing. Believe it or not that is now your primary objective.

If on the other hand you chose to turnaround and put that 10 knot wind on your tailfeathers, you have increased your landing speed from 45 to 65 knots. I have long forgotten my physics but it is a 66% increase in landing speed and about 2.75 times the energy.

What's the point? Train, Practice, Take your bird up to altitude and pull the mixture. Find out how fast it comes down. Simulate that decent rate with flaps and power in the pattern. Set that configuration and don't touch it till you wipe it off to land, on the 1000 ft marks and not 1 ft short. Develop a pneumonic checklist like "Glide, Gas, Gear, Mixture, Mags, heat, Help, Harness, Prop, Canopy, and practice it.

So now you are saying even the "Defender of Don't Turn Back" turned. Yes I did, but not back, only into the wind. Would I never turn back? Yes I would. Suppose I am cruising at 8500 ft. and the fan quit. First, lower the nose and fly straight ahead. Then push nearest airport button, find it behind me and fly back. Think about it that way. Flying back to the airport, not turning back to the airport. If you can't fly back to the airport and land into the wind, Don't turn Back.

In closing, don't cut ribbons with a little airplane that doesn't have alternate air and stalls at 95 mph. If you do, and the engine quits, lower the nose (a long ways) and land straight ahead. (at least into the wind)

PS. The altitudes in the Blue Book are not for an RV It will do better. How much? It would depend. Altitude, Temperature, Gross Weight, Cruise prop, Climb prop, or C/S prop, engine compression(the reason it failed). If anyone feels compelled to set a numbers for their airplane I would demo the lowest number you are comfortable with and add at least 25% for the contingencies, 50% would be better.

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DougR@petroblend.com

 
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Doing the engine run up

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Flight TestingRV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN"

I've posted for years on this subject. If you have heard it before delete
now.

EVERY RV (and derivatives) with a tail wheel can, have & well nose over if
too much RPM is used for run-up OR if the prop is cycled at high RPM when
the prop get a big ole bite of air. Every RV is different BUT ALL of them
can, have & will continue to nose over. Chain the tail down FIRST, do a run
up to determine YOUR comfort level.
On N561FS we use 1,700 as max RPM until on a roll. HRII 250HP IO-540. Fail
to learn from the mistakes others will result in "ding, ding, ding, clunk".
The "dings" are the prop tips & the "clunk" is the spinner. It happens waaay
too fast to correct. 27 degrees up helps BUT 90 degrees would not be enough
if you cycle the prop at 2200 RPM with the brakes locked. IF you have done
this already consider yourself VERY Lucky. Do Not Try It once you have the
CG set.
Once it's on it's nose, get help, lots of it, to get the tail wheel back
down SLOWLY.
DO NOT attempt to pull it down by yourself, you will break its back. Refer
to X-15 photos for examples of what will happen.
KABONG
 
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Static Electricity and aircraft refueling

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Flight Testing

Here's a very good article about the dangers of static electricity when fueling aircraft. There are some risks here discussed that I had never heard, so I found the article very useful.

From the article: Always remember these key points:

  • Refuel and defuel outdoors
  • Ensure electrical bonding is in place prior to removing any fuel caps
  • Use only approved containers
  • Use only approved filters
  • When in doubt, consult your fuel supplier.

Also, it seems using a chamois to filter the fuel can greatly increase static electricity buildup.

Here is a link to the PDF: http://www.caa.govt.nz/fulltext/vector/vector_05_5_sept_oct%2005.pdf

 
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BMA Autopilot installation problem

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Flight TestingThis is not exactly a flight testing issue, but I thought this would be a good place to put this information. Here is a post from the VansAirforce.net forums, written by Glen M. Thompson:

All BMA autopilot owners CAUTION!

A VERY scary thing happened yesterday when I went out to fly 331JH. It was a beautiful morning and Jim is geting REALLY excited since there are less than 10 hours left in testing for him to take his first ride in his new 10!

I sat down and turned on the master and immediatly there was a loud squeal from the left wing tip(servo installed there) and the aft fuselage. At the same time the stick abruptly jammed to the left and aft. (Efis 1 powered by standby battery and autopilot controller powered by the main bus through a button CB) I immediatly turned off the master and found the elevator free but the ailerons jammed almost full travel to the left!

What happened was, the servos went nuts for whatever reason ( Brent spoke to larry and he cannot see how this happened, Bob and possibly Greg are coming here next week to cure our gremlins hopefully) and went full travel left and up. Now, here is where EVERYBODY should take note. Yes.... the directions and common sence says to ABSOLUTELY make sure the servos CANOT go over center, and we thought we prevented that with the aileron stops, But.........We had the servo set up with the arm pointing down. Apperently, when the servo went nuts, it pushed so hard on the pushrod going to the bellcrank, (3.5 feet or so long), it bent the pushrod sufficiently for the servo arm to travel over center and the arm to then jam itself against the upper wing skin!. Ok, so I disconnected the controller power plug and went to fly. For grins, I tried to fly with the ailerons deflected the same amount to the left as they were when the controls jammed. Nuh uhhh, I could not maintain level flight with even HALF the aileron travel as when they were jammed and full rudder. Goes without saying what would have happened if this occured inflight.

I recommend that unless your servos can travel 360 degrees without jamming your controls or you have hard stops on your servos, that you consider pulling the breaker until further inspection.

Questions or comments, please call or write....With BMA coming next week we will keep everybody posted so we can all learn and be safe from this.

Glen 561 - 670 - 6095


Be careful with your autopilot installations - try to imagine failures that "can't happen".

 
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Deadstick Technique for RV Pilots

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Flight TestingThis excellent article is from Ross Farnham of Simple Digital Systems. The original article is here: http://www.sdsefi.com/air44.htm

Deadstick Technique for RV Pilots

This article deals with some of the lessons learned from my forced landing on Jan. 22/05 and will hopefully be of use to other RV pilots. Comments from other RV pilots with similar experiences or input is welcome.

Observations

1. The descent rate, glide ratio and apparent glide angle are different with no power as opposed to simulated idle power. The glide ratio is dependent on weight and propeller drag. Our calculated glide ratio with the engine out at gross weight is only around 6.75-7.5 to 1. It is logical to assume that propeller drag may be higher with 3 blade as opposed to two blade props. On controllable pitch props, the glide may be extended by going to full coarse if loss of oil pressure or electrics does not prevent this. Going to WOT if you remember may also extend the glide.

2. Testing on our aircraft shows that best glide airspeed is somewhere around 80-85 knots. Your aircraft may be different. It is worth testing at idle power to find out. Check your VSI at different airspeeds and calculate the glide ratio. Velocity divided by descent rate = glide ratio. VSI in ft./min., airspeed in miles per hour needs to be converted to ft./min. by multiplying by 88. For example, 80 mph X 88= 7040 feet per minute. If your VSI reads 1000 fpm, 7040 divided by 1000= 7.04. For working in knots, multiply your airspeed by 1.15.

3. With the small aspect ratio on the typical RV, induced drag in turns at low airspeed is relatively high. In other words, turns with no engine power will require that you lower the nose to maintain airspeed. This increases the descent rate appreciably. I would therefore recommend that you don't make any major turns at low altitude. If you must turn to avoid obstacles, keep your bank angles to less than 30 degrees, USE THAT RUDDER for heading changes and watch the ASI like a hawk. NEVER let the ASI drop below 80 knots/ 85 mph.

4. If you have plenty of altitude, you MAY have time to switch to 121.5 and transmit a Mayday after checking fuel, swiches and engine controls. You MAY NOT have time. You may not have electrical power for the radios as in our case. FLY THE AIRCRAFT FIRST! Things can happen fast in a real engine out situation. Inattention to flying by switching radios and other distractions can use up precious decision making time. Calling Mayday is less important than surviving the forced landing. Watch that ASI.

5. In my incident, I thought I had plenty of altitude 2-3 miles out to make the runway. It was very deceiving and I ended up WELL short. Plan to arrive MUCH higher than you think. You can always side slip or use full flaps (if you have electrics or manual flaps) to lose altitude when you are very close to the field. You can't gain back what you have already lost. Unless you are at least 3000 feet AGL, I would not recommend a standard forced landing pattern as I think with the RV glide characteristics, it is very likely that you will use up all your altitude in the turns and end up too short. Pick the best area and aim for it. You cannot see the obstacles or even judge the terrain very well from 2-3000 feet up anyway. Watch that ASI and keep saying in your head- don't stall, don't stall!

6. The pitch attitude during the glide may not look too bad at 500 or 1000 feet above the ground but as you get down to 100-200 feet, it will look downright scary. Absolutely resist the temptation to pull back on the stick when this hits you. It will be a very powerful urge at low altitude to arrest the descent rate. You MUST maintain 80-85 all the way down to the flare. If you pull back at 100 feet, speed will fall off, descent rate will increase and you will either stall and be killed or hit even harder as you will not have enough energy to complete a flare. Another way of looking at this is that 1000 fpm is 16.6 feet per second. That is a hard hit if you can't flare. At 60 knots, the descent rate may be as high as 20+ feet per second. Fly the aircraft right down to 20-25 feet at 80-85 before starting the flare. Elevator authority will be reduced with no power so the flare will take longer to execute and speed will bleed off faster with no residual idle thrust from the prop. Get the aircraft into ground effect and let the speed bleed off until you touch down.

We all hope that we never experience an engine failure but it can happen to anyone. Practice your procedures and get to know how your aircraft handles at idle power. If possible, practice approaches at idle power from a ways out on your normal runway. Without adjusting power except for safety, see if you can touch down where you anticipated. Practice side slipping to lose altiude on some of your approaches. Knowing how the aircraft feels and responds may save your life sometime. If you always land with partial or full flaps, do some landings clean as an RV flys quite differently. Don't become complacent about your ability to force land your aircraft as it WILL be different from any training scenerio when you really do lose all power.

 
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Engine failure on approach

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Flight Testing> Suppose, just suppose that you're in your RV-8 on speed, full flaps turning
> base to 1/2 mile final and the engine quits. You are pretty sure that you
> have the runway made but you want to extend your glide as much as possible.
> Do you leave the flaps where they are or do you raise them and if so how
> much? Thought about this yesterday as I turned final.



As you know, the glide ratio (i.e the distance travelled for a given
amount of altitude) will be better with the flaps up than with them
extended, assuming that you are at the best glide speed for each
configuration. So, at the moment that the engine failed, if you were
at the best glide speed for flaps up, or faster, there is an
advantage to raising the flaps, no matter what your altitude is.

But, if you are flying slower than the best glide speed for flaps up,
you are going to need to push over to accelerate, and you will lose
some altitude to do this. At the moment where you attain the best
glide speed for flaps up, you will probably be below the flight path
you would have followed if you had just left the flaps down. But the
improved glide performance with flaps up will soon let you get above
the flight path you would have followed if you had left the flaps down.

If you were flying below the stall speed for flaps up when the engine
failed (which is a lot slower than you should be flying on final),
you could still raise the flaps, but you would have to push as you
did so, to keep the angle of attack less than the stalling angle of
attack. This implies that you will be at much less than one g load
factor, and you will be falling from the sky like the proverbial
brick until you get some speed back and can then allow the g to
increase. This would be a bad situation if you were at low altitude,
as you might not get enough speed to allow you to pull g and break
the rate of descent before you hit the ground.

In general, for any given speed, there is an altitude at which it
doesn't matter whether you retract the flaps or leave them down - you
will hit the ground at the same point. If you are above this
altitude, it makes sense to retract the flaps. If you are below this
altitude it makes sense to leave them down.

All of the above assumes you know the speed for best glide ratio with
the flaps up and down, and that you know the stall speed for flaps up
and down. You should have determined all those numbers during your
flight test program. Then you should simulate engine failures
starting from various conditions. Put the flaps down, stabilize at
airspeed X using whatever rpm you normally use on base leg. Then
pull the throttle to idle, push over, retract the flaps, and note how
much altitude you lose before you get to best glide speed for flaps
up. Add a bit of a buffer to this altitude, and it will give you a
reasonable minimum altitude at which you should consider retracting
the flaps. Repeat this at different airspeeds, and note how the
altitude required to achieve best glide speed varies with the speed
at engine failure.

Kevin Horton


Kevin wrote a excellent description of the technical aspects of engine out
glidepath. I'll take a different approach.

Certainly I can not, and few other pilots that I know, except my Test Pilot
Hero ;-) Kevin Horton, can call up that info and process it, while turning
directly to the airport property and trying to figure out why the engine
quit and whether to pull the prop back, switch tanks, maintain best glide,
find a place to park, check the boost pumps, tighen up your shoulder
harness, hit the starter, all this while soiling your undergarments.

I offer a different question and some answers.
What can we do to improve our safety while flying in the pattern?

Tighten up our patterns. An engine failure in the pattern should never
result in an off airport landing. (maybe off the runway, but on the airport
property.) We should talk to our friends about the bomber patterns we all
see at our airports and set a good example, by flying nice tight patterns.

Never Turn back to the runway on an engine failure after take-off.

Shock cooling be damned, approaches should be made at idle power.

Aim for the 1000 ft markers, not the end of the runway.

Don't get slow!

Every power change in the pattern should be a reduction. Not counting ATC,
adding power in the pattern should be considered poor planning and an error.

Every one should have an engine failure checklist committed to memory. Mine
is an old WWII checklist:

Glide - pull or push to best glide speed
Gear - Up or down, up is default unless you are willing to bet your life
that the ground is hard
Gas - Pump on and Try all Selector all positions including OFF, ( I had
one quit, right after annual, and it ran in OFF )
Ignition - try all positions including OFF
Heat - Carb Heat on
Mixture - Rich or maybe leaned on an injected eng.
Prop - Low RPM or Feather
Canopy - open(or doors unlatched) before impact
Harness - Seat and shoulder harness locked and tight

Finally when the end is near,
Mixture, Master & Mags off for impact

You notice flaps did not even make the list.

To answer the original question, If I was high enough to do everything else
that is more important, then I would raise the flaps. There is more
important work to do than raising the flaps. The most important thing, FLY
the airplane to the ground. Airplanes that arrive at the accident site
under control with the wings level usually have survivors onboard. You will
notice Glide is first on the list, and the only thing on the list that I did
when my engine quit.

Tailwinds,
Doug Rozendaal
 
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Flying Attitude

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Flight TestingA great article from Doug Rozendaal:

--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal"

>> --> RV-List message posted by: linn walters
Snip

>>
>> with crosswinds. The plane was the same, but I wasn't. Best of luck,
>> Linn
>>


Linn,

You are correct, you are not the same, you are better for the experience.

I too am a "member of the club" and, I hope, better for it. There is lots
of invincibility running around in the RV community. I had plenty of that
attitude. My accident adjusted my attitude. I am not saying my attitude
problem is cured, it never is, keeping attitude in check is a continuous
battle when flying airplanes. It is especially difficult flying airplanes
with performance like RV's or, worse, some of the cool airplanes that I fly.
The RV flies so well and so easy that we start to believe that we are really
good. That is B.S.

Get this part here. Pilot skill is seldom the problem. Most airplanes
crash because of attitude. Our attitude takes us to a place that our
airplane can't get us out of, and then there is a crash.

You don't believe that? Let me list some of my dead friends. Charlie
Hillard, French Connection, Sonny Lovelace and Randy Drake (Red Barons)
Jimmy Franklin, Bobby Younkin, Ian Groom, shall I continue? Does anyone
think these guys were short on skill?

Questioning our decision making is a good thing in aviation. This fighter
pilot ego crap that we must mentally dominate my enemy by believing that we
are the best in the world and no one can beat us is a great thing for
defending the freedom of our country.

We are trying to travel, have fun and live to fly another day. We need to
use a Cockpit Resource Management model that goes like this:
1. acknowledge that we make errors.
2. trap the errors before they become problems.
3. mitigate the damage from the errors that get past step 2.

Many people crash and do not change their attitudes. They can't even get to
step 1. They won't admit that they make mistakes and change their behavior.
They keep crashing until they are eliminated from the gene pool. The
insurance companies will tell you that anyone who has crashed once is far
more likely to crash again.

I crashed my airplane because my ego was out of control and none of my
friends took me aside to square me up. Shattering your kneecap squares you
up. It changed my approach to flying. I still make mistakes, lots of them.
I still wrestle to control my "fighter pilot" attitude. I try to accept
counsel from my peers and offer it when I think their attitudes are getting
dangerous.

If we don't counsel our peers when they get out of hand, then we have blood
on our hands when they get hurt.

Tailwinds,
Doug Rozendaal
 
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Parachute links

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Flight TestingI'll probably be wearing a parachute and helmet when I do the flight testing - just in case. Here are some links to suppliers and information:

http://www.butlerparachutes.com/

http://www.strongparachutes.com/

http://www.softieparachutes.com/

http://www.nationalparachute.com/page2.html

http://www.pia.com/silver/ShopInfo.htm

 
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